Gene Kim on DevOps, Part 3: DevSecOps and Why It’s More Important Than Ever (Video)

We at Code42 were fortunate to have our good friend Gene Kim, author of The Phoenix Project and the leading expert on DevOps, stop by our office for a conversation about DevOps and its implications for security. One of the best parts of the visit for me was talking with Gene about our DevSecOps experiences here at Code42 and how we have brought security into the DevOps model.

Here at Code42, we are on a mission to secure our customers’ ideas. That’s why our DevOps journey included bringing security into the DevOps model. I’m proud to say that we’ve been profoundly successful bringing those security risk controls into our process and making it part of our engineering process.

Security is often viewed—especially by engineering— as the department of “No.” Yet, in the DevOps model, you’re trying to embody self-service and autonomy, which can be difficult to square with accountability.

As our DevSecOps model has come together, our security team has been taking the time to establish the expectations for the engineering side of the house, and we’ve been able to implement those controls. One of the most gratifying outcomes for me is, instead of an after-the-fact security scan, we’re now proactively dealing with security as we design and build our software.

Now, engineering has the freedom to do what they need to do, because they’re able to talk more openly and collegially with the security team. A lot of the answers that were “No” before, when explained in the right context, become “Yes,” because the security team can enable the engineers to move forward.

During our interview, Gene echoed the advantages of bringing security to the DevOps table. “It’s been really gratifying to see organizations … call it not DevOps but DevSecOps,” said Gene. “Truly integrating all the information security objectives into everyone’s daily work.”

Hear what else Gene had to say about DevOps and its implications for security.

If you haven’t already, be sure to check out the previous two installments in our three-part blog and video series with Gene where he talks about what it takes to become a DevOps organization and the role of culture.

Gene Kim on DevOps, Part 1: How Do You Become a DevOps Organization?

Gene Kim on DevOps, Part 2: The Cultural Impact of becoming a DevOps Org

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